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FORD FALCON XR6  2003:  RE: DRIVELINE BACKLASH / CLUNKING, UNUSABLE CRUISE CONTROL     *REPLY*

31/05/2007

ISSUE:
MANY PROBLEMS

Hi Terry

Referring to your problem BA and Fords nation wide poor after sales.

My BA has the vibration at highway speed. Ford's first fix was to recalibrate the torque converter, fixed nothing. Next they replaced the tail shaft still no fix. Next they replaced the diff assembly. All this did was to change the speed at which the vibration occurred. Needless to say very disappointed to have the car returned with a different problem, raises the question about their professional capabilities.

Ford once again have the car, even had an engineer from Ford Melbourne drive it. All agree that there is a problem, still waiting for a fix. Should have kept the Laser!

POSTED BY: ROB P - BRISBANE, QLD - AUS, 31/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== ORIGINAL POSTING ==========
"FORD FALCON XR6 2003: DRIVELINE BACKLASH / CLUNKING, UNUSABLE CRUISE CONTROL - Car is a XR6 manual purchased 2nd hand with only 9,000 kms from Phil McCarrol. From day 1, car has had clunky driveline back lash when at slow speeds and down shifting gears. What's worse is that when the cruise control is on the car shudders and clunks that bad it is dangerous to use. Returned it to Ford 3 times before they said there was a problem.

They rebuilt the diff and replaced a CV shaft but the problem still exists. Ford tells me that this is a common characteristic in manuals with IRS and the backlash is more tolerable on these models and there is nothing more they can do. How can you sell a vehicle that has cruise control when it is impossible to use, and then claim it's a common characteristic? The car now has a vibration at highway speed which seems as if the tail shaft is mis-aligned and un-balanced since the diff was worked on. I got no resolution from MacArthur Ford, Ford customer relations centre or Ford extended warranty. Simply told that's how the manuals are.

Absolutely disgusted have been staunch Ford fan all my life, even rebuilt and restored my own show car 351 XE which I have won several trophies for, and they insult me and my intelligence with absolute **** and negligence. A Ford fan I will stay, for early models like XY GT stuff made with pride! My advice don't buy ext warranty - you're wasting your time and money, it's not worth the ink it's printed in."
POSTED BY: TERRENCE PIPER - NARELLAN VALE, NSW 29/05/2007

NISSAN PATROL TI 2004:  BACKFIRE    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

31/05/2007

ISSUE:
GAS

I have a Ti Patrol 2004 model which I bought brand new. I knew that will be expensive to run on petrol so I decided to convert it to gas. Because my car was under warranty my gas unit had to be installed through a gas conversion company referred by Nissan. For the first 20000km I had no problems, since then the car hasn't stop backfiring. I am fed up with going to the mechanics all the time. They fix it for 2000-3000km and the same thing happens again.

Has anyone got a similar problem? Or am I the only unlucky one? Gerry

POSTED BY: GERRY RASSIAS - MELBOURNE, VIC - AUS, 31/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Your backfiring is due to a fault in the ignition system. Fit NGK or DENSO plugs ONLY for LPG and either EAGLE LPG spiral core leads OR check coil packs if your vehicle has them instead of HT Leads. Also, make sure there are NO induction leaks as you may have had some damage due to backfiring. Good luck and let us know how you go.
Cheers; David.
POSTED BY: DAVID - MOUNT BARKER, SA - AUS 31 MAY 2007

========== REPLY ==========
The single most common cause of backfiring in an engine running on gas is the plug gaps. Gas has a higher resistance than petrol and therefore the plugs need to be set 15 to 20 % closer than the factory setting for petrol. This will also make startup much easier than your probably experiencing now.

The other thing that hinders gas engines is if the air intake is picking up its air from under the bonnet, and especially behind the radiator as this air is already super heated (90-110C) and is much thinner and causing the engine to run rich on a standard gas (carb) system. The computer managed systems will compensate for this to a point, but the super heated air will still render the gas unstable causing a multitude of nasty side effects like detonation, overheating, melted pistons and extra damage to the valve seats.

The best thing is to pick up ambient air from outside the engine bay say through a snorkel, grille intake or any type of fresh air kit, as even on the hottest day travelling in the outback the air temperature will not be over 50C.

I had the experience with an old truck fitted with a 4.1L Ford engine that I used in the central and northwest of NSW in all sorts of weather conditions which continuously ran hot and played up until I learned the secret about the ambient air. I merely fitted an extension to an enclosed air filter to pick up air in front of the radiator and it ran a constant 72 degrees C (cool thermostat) from that day on and no more backfiring or pinging.

I hope this is a big help to everyone out there with any sort of vehicle running on gas.

P.S. the muck that builds up in the intake (around the throttle body and butterfly plate) is compressor oil used in the propane to give it its smell and lubricate the pumps so that you can fill up quickly at the bowser. It doesn’t vapourise completely and builds up over a long period of time. Just wash it out with carby clean or some other solvent from time to time.
POSTED BY: WILLIAM CORDELL - CASTLEREAGH, NSW - AUS 14 MAR 2009

HOLDEN STATESMAN WL 2005:  ENGINE NOISE AND ROAD NOISE    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

31/05/2007

ISSUE:
NOISE

I recently purchased a WL Statesman, beautiful car but has some significant noise problems which I am hoping to get some feedback on. The engine is the 190 kw V6 which whines quite loudly at lows speeds or through reasonable acceleration. Holden have advised me that the whine is due to the timing chain in the engine and is a standard noise on all Holdens with similar engines made since the VZ i.e. the new 190 kw alloytec. (My previous VT had no such noise). Apparently even the new VE has a similar noise though it has been tamed slightly. They said you'll get use to it - we did!

The other noise is road noise at speeds above 80k's. The Holden mechanic said when I returned to complain that it was tyre noise emanating from the front wheels. He picked this even though in the test drive we never went over 40klms/hr. Two new front tyres later and guess what the noise is still there. To me it sounds like an air noise stemming from the cars aerodynamics (but heh I am definitely no mechanic). The noise is so loud that at 110k's I can still hear it even after cranking the stereo up to ear piercing volumes.

Does anyone have similar issues - can you help!

POSTED BY: MARK LAVERICK - CALOUNDRA, QLD - AUS, 31/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Hi, in reading your problems I couldn’t resist but let you know my father has a 2002 Holden Statesman, the engine has noise also.

Upon having it examined by Holden, they also advised that the noise was a standard noise in such models. Not happy my dad had a TAFE mechanics teacher listen to the engine and this proved what my dad thought was going on. The engine has piston slap on at least 2 cylinders. When put to the dealer, it was still not heard until phoning the head dealership in Melbourne. The car was taken and pistons rebored and returned with the same noise.

I have since found out from the piston builder that the engine has not only 2 pistons with slap but 3. The repairer stated that it is standard for Holden to only go to a certain size when boring the piston and not anything above. So this was what was done, but the pistons needed to be bored bigger thus the car returning with the same noise.

My father is currently trying to make Holden do something about this, but I found the best way to determine the noise is to start the car, place your foot hard down on the brake pedal, place the car into the drive position and slowly lower your foot down on the accelerator - the noise is so more apparent then. Maybe you might like to give this a go to see if you have the same problem as I. Holden had tried to advise me that this is common in a lot of engines throughout the models but yet they still turn them out like this which makes me very angry. My father is a motor mechanic by trade and did his apprenticeship with the Holden dealership. Please let me know how you go. Cheers
POSTED BY: SHARON - WINDSOR, NSW 4/3/2008

FORD FALCON  2004:  RE: PLASTIC UNDER FRONT WHEEL ARCH CAME OFF @100KPH ...    *REPLY*

30/05/2007

ISSUE:
MANY PROBLEMS

Hi Steven.

The front gravel tray as you mentioned on the first car is secured into place with several metal screws and two scrivets. If it was secured correctly in the first place there certainly would not be an issue with it falling off. Perhaps there has been some work done in this area and not re-attached correctly. I have also noted that many have underbody damage from low driveways... etc... Sometimes tearing them from the screws.

The same basically goes for the wheel arch trims. Was it the driver's side? Perhaps when a bonnet cable was replaced the trim was not re-secured correctly, as there are several screws / scrivets / Christmas trees holding them in place. This trim is removed to correctly replace the bonnet cable.

As in previous posts, the park brake is a "park" brake and is not to be applied while the vehicle is moving. The brake shoes are not designed to stop the car at any time, only to hold it once it is stopped. If it is only used in this manner it will not generally give a problem. Previous owner not aware? Dismantle, clean, deglaze, lube pivot points, adjust and assemble is required. (Hopefully shoes are OK, not burnt)

The bonnet cable issue is popular. The bonnet catch should be adjusted and lubricated to provide less strain on the release lever. As the lever is plastic (just like everybody else's) it is however secured to the plastic fuse box. This should be kept in mind when releasing the bonnet. If the bonnet does not release "easily" with the lever, get a second person to carefully push the bonnet to help release it then adjust/lube the catch.
Hope this helps in some way ... Dav.

POSTED BY: L DAVIS - BOMADERRY, NSW - AUS, 30/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== ORIGINAL POSTING ==========
"FORD FALCON XT 2004: PLASTIC UNDER FRONT WHEEL ARCH CAME OFF @100KPH & CAUSING EXTENSIVE DAMAGE - My wife and I had been looking for a quality second hand BA for some time. We found one in Sydney, as we drove down the road the plastic under the front bumper came off at about 60kph with the salesmen in car. We did not buy that car.

We found one in our home town and bought it. About two months after the same thing happened, but this time the plastic under wheel arch and about 100kph causing about $2000 damage.

Warranty won't cover it and dealership accused me of hitting something. Please, what can I do other then use my insurance.

Brake not working, car rolls about three foot before stopping. Bonnet release has broken twice."
POSTED BY: STEVEN ELLERY - ORANGE, NSW 28/05/2007

FORD FALCON BA - BF 0:  FORD: FALCON - BRAKE SAFETY/RECALL PROGRAM    *ADVICE*

30/05/2007

ISSUE:
BRAKES

Found an interesting bit of information this week that may help some Falcon owners. Ford are asking owners of Ford Falcons from Model-BA September 2002 to BF Mark 2 released last March to bring them in to a dealership to have " ... the rear brake hoses replaced at no cost."
Apparently, Ford are NOT calling it a 'recall', rather a 'safety program'!

Article in the Sydney Morning Herald - 25 May 2007:
'Ford detects brake problem (Andra Jackson, The Sydney Morning Herald, 25/05/07)

The Ford Motor company is replacing brake hoses on its popular BF and BA Falcon models Australia-wide after a brake durability problem was detected. Owners of the models are being asked to bring their cars into Ford dealerships "as a matter of course" to have the rear brakes hose replaced at no cost.

Ford public affairs spokesman Edward Finn said about 200,000 cars are involved, covering the Falcon range from the BA which came on the market in September 2002 to the BF Mark 2 which was released last March.

"The rear brake hoses on certain sedan models are being replaced because in certain circumstances they wear excessively and the brakes lose their operating effectiveness," Mr Finn said.

He stressed the brake replacements which began this week are taking place as a safety program and are not a recall. So far the problem has been detected in around 1000 cars. The brake problem will be noticeable, and accompanied by a warning light, but will still allow the car to stop within the prescribed distance, Mr Finn said.

The problem of excessive wear on the brake lining is believed to stem from the high mileage the vehicles tend to be put to over different road surfaces. Another 20,000 vehicles in New Zealand will also be subjected for brake replacements.'


Hope this helps.
Best wishes, Andrew

POSTED BY: ANDREW KAYE - TOOWOOMBA, QLD - AUS, 30/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
That problem was detected by the NSW Office of Fair Trading Inspectors after receiving complaints from Taxi drivers that the hoses were failing. The hoses are too short and are stretched when the wheels are on full droop. As they age they then break.
POSTED BY: HARRY BELL - NEWCDASTLE, NSW 3/6/2007

========== REPLY ==========
About the recall that is not a recall. Had my car serviced, asked them about the brake hoses. Was told that the XR8 was not involved. Asked, which cars were.
Reply: Not sure which one are involved in the safety campain, but not your model.
POSTED BY: RON - BLUFF, QLD 20/6/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Hello Andrew, it was 233,000 Ford Falcons from 2001 to 2007.
Cheers
POSTED BY: KEN CONNELL - MELBOURNE, VIC 15/9/2007

HYUNDAI ACCENT  2002:  CENTRAL LOCKING    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

29/05/2007

ISSUE:
WARRANTY

I had central locking fitted to my car when I bought it new in 2002, as it was not standard then. In August 2006 I had a service and asked if the central locking for the passenger door could be repaired, the repair lasted two days. I returned the car and was told new parts would have to be ordered. Heard nothing so in November I rang the dealership to ask on the progress; 'parts still on back order' they said. Due to family dramas I could not get back to them until April '07 and was greeted with a blank look regarding the whole problem.

The up shot now is that because the central locking was fittd 'after market' there was only a 12 month warranty, no mention of that in August 2006. They now want $269.00 to fix the problem, anyone out there got any ideas on what I can do next.

POSTED BY: HELEN JONES - TEWANTIN, QLD - AUS, 29/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Hi Helen.
I suggest a trip to your local auto electrician. A supply and fit of a complete aftermarket remote central locking system is cheaper. Depending on the type installed, a replacement actuator sould be easily fitted.
Regards Dav..
POSTED BY: L DAVIS - BOMADERRY, NSW 30/5/2007

FORD FALCON XR6  2003:  DRIVELINE BACKLASH / CLUNKING, UNUSABLE CRUISE CONTROL    *COMPLAINT*

29/05/2007

ISSUE:
MANY PROBLEMS

Car is a XR6 manual purchased 2nd hand with only 9,000 kms from Phil McCarrol. From day 1, car has had clunky driveline back lash when at slow speeds and down shifting gears. What's worse is that when the cruise control is on the car shudders and clunks that bad it is dangerous to use. Returned it to Ford 3 times before they said there was a problem.

They rebuilt the diff and replaced a CV shaft but the problem still exists. Ford tells me that this is a common characteristic in manuals with IRS and the backlash is more tolerable on these models and there is nothing more they can do. How can you sell a vehicle that has cruise control when it is impossible to use, and then claim it's a common characteristic? The car now has a vibration at highway speed which seems as if the tail shaft is mis-aligned and un-balanced since the diff was worked on. I got no resolution from MacArthur Ford, Ford customer relations centre or Ford extended warranty. Simply told that's how the manuals are.

Absolutely disgusted have been staunch Ford fan all my life, even rebuilt and restored my own show car 351 XE which I have won several trophies for, and they insult me and my intelligence with absolute **** and negligence. A Ford fan I will stay, for early models like XY GT stuff made with pride! My advice don't buy ext warranty - you're wasting your time and money, it's not worth the ink it's printed in.

POSTED BY: TERRENCE PIPER - NARELLAN VALE, NSW - AUS, 29/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Referring to your problem BA and Fords nation wide poor after sales.

My BA has the vibration at highway speed. Ford's first fix was to recalibrate the torque converter, fixed nothing. Next they replaced the tail shaft still no fix. Next they replaced the diff assembly. All this did was to change the speed at which the vibration occurred. Needless to say very disappointed to have the car returned with a different problem, raises the question about their professional capabilities.

Ford once again have the car, even had an engineer from Ford Melbourne drive it. All agree that there is a problem, still waiting for a fix. Should have kept the Laser!

POSTED BY: ROB P - BRISBANE, QLD 31/5/2007

FORD FALCON XT 2004:  PLASTIC UNDER FRONT WHEEL ARCH CAME OFF @100KPH & CAUSING EXTENSIVE DAMAGE    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

28/05/2007

ISSUE:
MANY PROBLEMS

My wife and I had been looking for a quality second hand BA for some time. We found one in Sydney, as we drove down the road the plastic under the front bumper came off at about 60kph with the salesmen in car. We did not buy that car.

We found one in our home town and bought it. About two months after the same thing happened, but this time the plastic under wheel arch and about 100kph causing about $2000 damage.

Warranty won't cover it and dealership accused me of hitting something. Please, what can I do other then use my insurance.

Brake not working, car rolls about three foot before stopping. Bonnet release has broken twice.

POSTED BY: STEVEN ELLERY - ORANGE, NSW - AUS, 28/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
"Hi Steven.

The front gravel tray as you mentioned on the first car is secured into place with several metal screws and two scrivets. If it was secured correctly in the first place there certainly would not be an issue with it falling off. Perhaps there has been some work done in this area and not re-attached correctly. I have also noted that many have underbody damage from low driveways... etc... Sometimes tearing them from the screws.

The same basically goes for the wheel arch trims. Was it the driver's side? Perhaps when a bonnet cable was replaced the trim was not re-secured correctly, as there are several screws / scrivets / Christmas trees holding them in place. This trim is removed to correctly replace the bonnet cable.

As in previous posts, the park brake is a "park" brake and is not to be applied while the vehicle is moving. The brake shoes are not designed to stop the car at any time, only to hold it once it is stopped. If it is only used in this manner it will not generally give a problem. Previous owner not aware? Dismantle, clean, deglaze, lube pivot points, adjust and assemble is required. (Hopefully shoes are OK, not burnt)

The bonnet cable issue is popular. The bonnet catch should be adjusted and lubricated to provide less strain on the release lever. As the lever is plastic (just like everybody else's) it is however secured to the plastic fuse box. This should be kept in mind when releasing the bonnet. If the bonnet does not release "easily" with the lever, get a second person to carefully push the bonnet to help release it then adjust/lube the catch.
Hope this helps in some way ... Dav."
POSTED BY: L DAVIS - BOMADERRY, NSW 30/05/2007

KIA CARNIVAL EX 2006:  DON'T BUY AN LS MODEL KIA CARNIVAL!    *GOOD NEWS*

27/05/2007

ISSUE:
CAR BUYING

Had LS model previously ... if you have one get rid of it now! Many problems will happen! If she is good now trade her in for a new Kia Carnival. The new Kia has a much better engine and mine has been good so far - 27000km - no complaints (knock on wood)

POSTED BY: MERRYN BLACKALL - CENTRAL COAST, NSW - AUS, 27/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Buy another one?
How much self-flagellation do you need?
POSTED BY: PHIL FROM BRISSIE - BRISBANE, QLD 29/5/2007

PEUGEOT 307  2006:  RE: 307 DIESEL 2006: THINKING OF PURCHASING    *REPLY*

27/05/2007

ISSUE:
CAR BUYING

Kerry,

Do not buy a 307. We have one that has been an ongoing problem. It will be going back to Regan motors tomorrow for the fourth time with a catalytic problem which they can not fix. The on board computer tells them that it's been misfiring but they can not fix it. It was last in on Friday, and on Saturday, same problem. Their response is to re set the computer, and change the spark plugs.

We will be persistent, but if any other owners read this and can assist, please do so.

Thanks. Russ

POSTED BY: RUSSELL SPENCE - PRESTON, VIC - AUS, 27/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== ORIGINAL POSTING ==========
"PEUGEOT 307 DIESEL 2006: THINKING OF PURCHASING - Hi my name is Kerry, I am thinking of buying a 2006 Peugeot 307 hatch/touring XSE HDi 2.0 auto. I was wondering if anyone out there has one and knows of any problems associated with the car itself, dealerships and service centres. I do not wish to buy a lemon if possible. I currently drive a Freelander 2001 V6 auto with 173,000 klms on it, have had a few problems with it, and now think maybe it is time to trade it in and buy something different.

Maybe someone can suggest what make of cars are the most reliable. Hope to hear from you."
POSTED BY: KERRY THORNE - LAKE HAVEN, NSW 6/05/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Dear Kerry, everybody will have an opinion and they will all probably be different! So I'll give my 10c worth. The Pug is ok BUT the new ones don't ride and feel as good as the older ones on which their reputation was made. The suspension has lost the supple feel. Shame. Also there is a host of electronics that can definitely irritate. One I know of loses the plot on corrugations because the car thinks it's about to crash. The fuel economy is great but the Pug can be very expensive to fix.

As a replacement for your Freelander I would be looking at a Subaru. If your looking for a secondhand one get one away from the coast and someone to have a really good look at it. The Liberty is the bigger version then there is the Forester which is slightly smaller (and others). You will be pleasantly surprised by the reliability and the versatility. Good Luck! "
POSTED BY: JOHN AUSTIN - NARRANDERA, NSW 6/05/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Buy a Mazda "3" and get off this merry go round of rubbish.
Read a few postings and then some more between the lines.
If you want a sporty feel buy a SP.
POSTED BY: GARY V - MELBOURNE, VIC 6/05/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Don't be put off by ideas of expensive parts and service for Peugeots. It is not true. I have owned 6 and will continue to buy them. My diesel 504 has been the cheapest car to own that I have ever experienced. Peugeots are clearly better performers as manuals rather than autos. If you are looking for specific problems try the numerous Peugeot websites. A good one to start with is www.pccv.org/ and follow the links.
POSTED BY: DAVID LOFTUS - MELBOURNE, VIC 7/05/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Be aware that like some other European cars (Citroen, Alfa Romeo) Peugeot make their disc brake rotors out of recycled baked bean cans or similar. Have just had a $900 bill on 307 Estate at 38k for new rotors (front) pads are r still good. Seems like reverse logic engineering or maybe just bad engineering.
POSTED BY: BLAKE THOMPSON - SYDNEY, NSW 7/05/2007

========== REPLY ==========
$900 for rotors you were robbed mate, Peugeots are great, my 2001 expert 20 hdi has done 500000 km. You don’t need any more proof than that!
POSTED BY: PAUL HILL - CAMBRIDGE ENGLAND, UK 4/11/2007

CARAVANS CAMPER JAYCO 2005:  *POSTING REMOVED BY REQUEST*    *COMPLAINT*

26/05/2007

ISSUE:
MANY PROBLEMS

POSTED BY: LORNA HAMEL - BELLEVUE, USA, 26/05/2007 

NISSAN MAXIMA  2003:  LOOKING AT A MAXIMA. PLEASE ADVISE OF ANY PROBLEMS/GOOD POINTS    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

25/05/2007

ISSUE:
REVIEW

We are looking to purchase a new used car from Trinity Ford Used Cars Cairns. Can anyone with info about these guys please let us know and anything regarding a Nissan Maxima 2003 Ti-L sedan.

Anything to look for? Thank you

POSTED BY: MATT W - KEWARRA BEACH, QLD - AUS, 25/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK

HONDA ODYSSEY  2005:  RE: HONDA ODYSSEY AC CONDENSER    *REPLY*

25/05/2007

ISSUE:
AIR CONDITIONER

Tiffany,

I just had the same problem with my 2005 Honda Touring Edition. I received the same story from the Honda dealership about the "old pebble" damage (not covered under the warranty because it was caused by an "outside agency" and not a defect). My bill came to $655.00 of which I paid my $250.00 deductible as per my car insurance agreement. I went to the "Mr. Grille" website and found that they make a heavy gauge aluminum grille that fits over the existing grille on the van. The cost is $106.00 which includes shipping. Mr. Grille states that it is an "easy installation", however, that is not true. I had the Honda dealer install the grille and even with their lift it took them about 45 minutes to install it. Mr. Grille sends along some small black tie wraps that really do not do the job. I suggest some heavier duty tie wraps when attaching the grille. The Honda service department was kind enough to not charge me for the installation.

I think the two pages of very negative blogs that I gave them, (about this particular problem) may have prompted them not to charge me. All of the blogs I have read seem to think that it is a Honda design flaw or a cheaper a/c condenser than the earlier models. One last note about the new grille...it attaches over the grille that is on the van. You will have to remove the original license plate mounting bracket and use molybolts to attach the license plate above the new grille. I can send you a photo should you desire. Good luck to you on your quest.

Regards

POSTED BY: LES BUSCH - FAIR OAKS RANCH, TEXAS, USA, 25/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== ORIGINAL POSTING ==========
" We purchased a 2006 Honda Odyssey in January of 2006. In April of 2007 the ac wasn't working. The dealership said "a rock or pebble" punctured the condenser and is refusing to cover under warranty. I have not yet had it repaired because the cost for the part is $790 and I have found multiple complaints regarding this issue on the internet. Some customers have had this problem covered, while others have not. Apparently, the condenser lies low to the ground and is not protected. I will never buy from Honda again.

Would appreciate any input on how to get American Honda to cover."

POSTED BY: TIFFANY KETCHAM - WEST DES MOINES, USA 5/05/2007

MITSUBISHI PAJERO  1994:  KEEP AWAY FROM DUKES AUTOS KENSINGTON    *COMPLAINT*

25/05/2007

ISSUE:
TRANSMISSION

To cut a long story short: I'm not complaining about the Auto but the guy who re-built it. He claims he is an acclaimed Transmission re-builder. I had my auto rebuilt by him at $3,300. Got the car back after a week with the same problem. He said to keep an eye on it and let him know - guess what it blew up. He then told me he put a 2nd hand auto in. I told him I want a re-fund but all he can come up with was $800.

I lodged a complaint and had a hearing but lost as he was represented by his accountant and the Judge said I was not an engineer. Had to accept the money providing I service the car at his Dukes place. I gave him a quote for 4 shockers for @$600 that he can get for me over the counter. He said he can get them for $1080 … What the ... off I went to see a solicitor. After a long dispute I got the shocks with the solicitor's bill.

Not long after, the park switch broke, a new one is over $400. Got one second hand. Pulled apart the old one and guess what - it had been freshly glued back together. Under any circumstances don't even walk past Dukes Autos, Smith St Kensington.

POSTED BY: RAY CARUANA - MELBOURNE , VIC - AUS, 25/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK

HONDA ODYSSEY  2006:  RE: HONDA ODYSSEY AC CONDENSER    *REPLY*

25/05/2007

ISSUE:
AIR CONDITIONER

I have the same issue. AC failed this week, and the dealership just called with the exact same diagnosis, rock or foreign object has pierced the AC condenser and it is not covered by warranty due to being road damage. I found that hard to believe and searched for this, finding this posting. Let me know how your claim proceeds, as I plan to pursue this with Honda as well.

POSTED BY: EDWIN WRIGHT - QUANTICO, VA, USA, 25/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== ORIGINAL POSTING ==========
"We purchased a 2006 Honda Odyssey in January of 2006. In April of 2007 the ac wasn't working. The dealership said "a rock or pebble" punctured the condenser and is refusing to cover under warranty. I have not yet had it repaired because the cost for the part is $790 and I have found multiple complaints regarding this issue on the internet. Some customers have had this problem covered, while others have not. Apparently, the condenser lies low to the ground and is not protected. I will never buy from Honda again.

Would appreciate any input on how to get American Honda to cover."
POSTED BY: TIFFANY KETCHAM - WEST DES MOINES, USA 5/05/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Tiffany, I just had the same problem with my 2005 Honda Touring Edition. I received the same story from the Honda dealership about the "old pebble" damage (not covered under the warranty because it was caused by an "outside agency" and not a defect). My bill came to $655.00 of which I paid my $250.00 deductible as per my car insurance agreement. I went to the "Mr. Grille" website and found that they make a heavy gauge aluminum grille that fits over the existing grille on the van. The cost is $106.00 which includes shipping. Mr. Grille states that it is an "easy installation", however, that is not true. I had the Honda dealer install the grille and even with their lift it took them about 45 minutes to install it. Mr. Grille sends along some small black tie wraps that really do not do the job. I suggest some heavier duty tie wraps when attaching the grille. The Honda service department was kind enough to not charge me for the installation.

I think the two pages of very negative blogs that I gave them, (about this particular problem) may have prompted them not to charge me. All of the blogs I have read seem to think that it is a Honda design flaw or a cheaper a/c condenser than the earlier models. One last note about the new grille...it attaches over the grille that is on the van. You will have to remove the original license plate mounting bracket and use molybolts to attach the license plate above the new grille. I can send you a photo should you desire. Good luck to you on your quest. Regards,
POSTED BY: LES BUSCH - FAIR OAKS RANCH, TEXAS USA 25/5/2007

LANDROVER FREELANDER 1.8 PETROL 2000:  FREELANDER OWNERS WITH 1.8 K SERIES PETROL ENGINES - SELL NOW    *COMPLAINT*

24/05/2007

ISSUE:
ENGINE

To all current Freelander owners - sell now. To potential owners, unless you like to throw your money away don't even consider one. My story of woe along with many other peoples. The engine problem that appears to plague this car at between 50 and 100 thousand kls.

I purchased a 2000 1.8 K series petrol Freelander in 2003 for a drive out price of $25,000 needing a car with some space for myself, my son and our dog. It has recently just had the head gasket blow at 77,000 klms which has caused irreversible damage to the engine. I was quoted around $12,000 to fix it, but the motor that will be supplied is the same type so I could face the problem all over again.

The book price to trade it in is about $8,000 so even if I could afford that financially (and who can) it wouldn't be viable and I would be allowing another car dealer to on sell the problem to another member of the public. So I am left with no option other than to get about $2,000 AS IS. I still owe $7,000 on it and I now also have to get finance for another car. There is obviously an issue with this engine and Landrover should have at least some liability over it. It is leaving people in financial dire straights all over the place.

POSTED BY: GILLIAN DOBSON - TOWNSVILLE, QLD - AUS, 24/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
I also have had problems with my Freelander (Diesel 5door), not long out of warranty. About 1,000km out of warranty the gear box went. Freelander would not replace it or even consider it at a reduced price. There is also a problem with the dash computer lights; the hazard, ABS, and downhill descent light are on permanently. Although nothing is wrong and they are not in use. This I have been told would cost above $1500 to fix. I will never be buying a Freelander again.
POSTED BY: DANI - ADELAIDE, SA 4/6/2007

========== REPLY ==========
If Danni had problems with dashboard lights coming on, my disco did this, the cause was a blown stop light fuse blown by a faulty rental trailer.
POSTED BY: ANDREW OSBORNE - MELBOURNE, VIC 14/6/2007

========== REPLY ==========
A nightmare, get rid of it now - head gasket & engine problems. Spoke w/Landrover and they stated that they are not aware of the problem.
POSTED BY: CAROLYNN BELL - AKRON, OH USA 12/10/2007

TOYOTA AURION  2006:  LLEWELLYN MOTORS    *GOOD NEWS*

24/05/2007

ISSUE:
SERVICE

Just wanted to say I took my vehicle to the Toyota service department for my first service and I have never felt so at home. All the the staff in the office are fantastic, very well recommended to any type of vehicle to go to this department. Burnie and Nichole looked after my vehicle and did a great job. They spend a lot of time on the customer needs and get an a+++++.

POSTED BY: PATRICIA KELLAM - BRISBANE, QLD - AUS, 24/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK

KIA CARNIVAL  2000:  RE: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO END?    *REPLY*

23/05/2007

ISSUE:
ENGINE

I too have the same problem with a KIA Carnival. Can you please advise of costs involved and if KIA is coming to the party.

POSTED BY: LES GIBBS - EAGLE VALE, NSW - AUS, 23/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== RELATED POSTING ==========
"I bought this Kia Carnival in Dec 2000 brand new at $42,000. In 2003, the engine was replaced due to a recall and with oil mixing up with water. The week I got it back, I've complaint to the Kia dealer service dept that the car is loosing coolant. They said give it time and just top it up. I've just done that and have been doing it until Dec 2006 when the engine overheated and lost power.

The end of the story is that the gasket has been replaced but the cylinder head (2) need replacing plus the valves and all piston rings. 5 months after, the car is back at the shop as another cylinder blew up -- the piston cracked and hit the cylinder head. When is this going to end?"
POSTED BY: JUN MACALALAD - ADELAIDE, SA 14/05/2007

========== RELATED POSTING ==========
"My husband and I are currently having the same problems with our 2000 model Carnival purchased second hand with an extended used-car warranty in March 2004. In January the head gasket failed due to the inherit problem in the engine design that these cars are plagued with. The car had travelled 88,000 km and this was the first time it had happened.

We were offered a short engine by Kia Australia, however we would need to foot the $4300 bill for labour as well as any repairs to the head. We didn't think this was a fair offer, since the problem is a design fault in the engine, for which we should bear no liability.

We lodged a complaint with the Department of Fair Trading in Sydney. Fair Trading got absolutely nowhere with Kia Australia, so we have lodged a complaint with the Consumer, Trading and Tenancy Tribunal for the matter to be heard in front of a Judge. Our hearing is tomorrow (18/4). Will keep you posted of the outcome. "
POSTED BY: CHRISTINE S - SYDNEY, NSW 17/04/2007

HOLDEN ASTRA EQUIPE 2002:  ASTRA 2002, MANY PROBLEMS    *COMPLAINT*

23/05/2007

ISSUE:
MANY PROBLEMS

I purchased my 2002 Astra "brand new" late June 2002. I love my little car apart from the many problems I've had along the way ... I'm not a rough driver and service my car at all it's scheduled times.

I've had my ignition replaced at only few thousand kilometres after purchase, central locking problem, but these were both easily fixed straight away under warranty.

3 years of age and only 40,000km, I had a loud rattle noise coming from my engine, took it to Holden they said it was the idle tensioner. They replaced that and I drove it away, still had the same noise and rattle. I took it back they seemed to think it was the alternator, but this was a common problem with the Astra's apparently and there wasn't any alternators anywhere in Australia at the time. What sort of manufacturer is Holden if you can't get parts? Holden quoted my a rough figure of $800 to replace the alternator. I went away and thought about it.

I started to do my own search for a new alternator as I couldn't just leave my poor car like this. I hit eBay, to my surprise there was one brand new alternator in its original box, never been used, exactly the part number I needed. I was so lucky to purchase it for only $150 to my door. Got someone to install it for me and it ran like a dream after that, quiet as anything and no noise.

Oh you can't buy wiper blades anywhere apart from your Holden dealership.

5 years old and only 65,000kms ... more problems.
The emissions light come on, got stuck, wouldn't start straight away, when it did start it was as slow as a snail, no power. I rang Holden but they couldn't look at it until the next day. Although the light was still on, it was fine to drive on the way home, weird!

Took it to Holden the next day, they said there was a fault with the crank sensor, they replaced it. But at the same time I asked them to check out a very loud tapping noise coming from the engine. This only happens when the engine is warm but at the time it didn't make the noise. But to me it sounds like it's coming from the automatic transmission because it mainly does it when it's in drive and park. Lately it's becoming more often, I took it for a drive and then went down to let them hear what I was on about, and yeah they have never heard anything like it before. Booked it in a week ago and still waiting to hear back what there going to do.

So I'm yet to see how much my car is going to cost to get fixed. Thinking a few thousand. So yeah I think I've got a bit of a lemon. You think when you purchase a brand new car that you're not going to have any problems, well at least until after 100,000km.

POSTED BY: C GREENMOUNT - COLLIE, WA - AUS, 23/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
I would just like to say I got the same vehicle brand new a 2002 Astra in June of 02, and I have had all the exact same problems as you. The ignition barrel changed twice, the idle tensioner replaced, alternator, lots of rattles and noises looked at. Luckily I took out extended warranty which covered these things. I am dreading that running out. So you are not a one off in this case.
POSTED BY: TRACEY - NEWCASTLE, NSW 1/6/2007

HOLDEN VECTRA  2007:  RADIO TURNS ITSELF DOWN WHEN IGNITION IS TURNED ON    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

23/05/2007

ISSUE:
ELECTRICAL

Does any one know how to rectify a fault with the radio on the 07 Vectra. The fault is the volume turns to minimum each time the ignition is turned on.

POSTED BY: B WHITTY - MELBOURNE, VIC - AUS, 23/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Try performing Master Reset, 1/ turn OFF the radio, 2/ simultaneously press and hold the preset button 4 and the button ON for 3 seconds.
POSTED BY: J L - SYDNEY, NSW 23/5/2007

========== REPLY ==========
Normal on many vehicles, the radio presets to a lower volume when the ignition is turned off. The idea being if one of the kids had driven the vehicle with the radio on high then when MUM gets into the car she is not blasted by the stereo when the key is turned on. LOL
POSTED BY: HARRY BELL - NEWCASTLE, NSW 3/6/2007

PEUGEOT 206 XR 2001:  PEUGEOT 206 IS A LEMON.    *COMPLAINT*

22/05/2007

ISSUE:
ENGINE

I've had my Peugeot 206 for approx 5yrs now and it's been such an unpleasant car to drive. I bought the automatic transmission version. As soon as I drove the car out of the showroom the car had problems straight away. It had what I have been told engine flair. Which is when you take off from a stationary position the engine would over rev and not go anywhere. Took it back to Peugeot and they fixed it.

Next problem I had was the head gasket needed replacing which I had done under warranty and all this within the first year. The brakes wear out too quick and constantly need changing. The second problem I had was that the way they have designed the gear shift arm that changes the vehicle from reverse to drive was that it was rubbing on some wiring under the battery enclosure which over time caused the wires to completely break away from the battery contact point. Lucky my mate is a mechanic and he located and fixed the problem for a bottle of whisky.

It's in its fifth year of existence now and the head gasket is being replaced yet again by my mate. My mate who now tells me that not only does the head gasket need replacing but the engine is wearing out and will need to be rebuilt if I want to keep the car. He said the engine probably has worn out because Peugeot didn't replace the head gasket properly the first time which has lead to engine wear five years down the track.

The automatic transmission in this vehicle is the worst designed transmission if ever. Peugeot have what is called an engine break safety system. Basically the car is meant to drive like a manual in that when you slow own it gears down and pulls the car up. That's all well and good but I found myself constantly fighting against this engine break as the vehicle would shuffle between gears trying to find the right gear to sit in so I constantly had my foot on the execrator sitting just over 60kph to keep it in gear. I always felt like I was driving with the hand brake on. Peugeot make great looking vehicles but in my opinion they wear out too quickly and drive like ****.

Hope this helps.

POSTED BY: WARREN HUGHES - GLENROY, VIC - AUS, 22/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
I am so relieved to see that someone is having the same issues with their 206 as me. I was driving on a major highway out of Wollongong on the weekend when all of a sudden my car Died and had to be towed. They are now telling me that the first cylinder is not combusting it has to be replaced costing $6500! What a crazy amount especially when my car is only worth $19K.

I feel like my car is an absolute Lemon! I have had problem after problem! The service people seem to have no idea what they are doing and I am left 4 days after the event still not knowing the final details My only option now is to sell it.
POSTED BY: REBECCA - SYDNEY, NSW 28 AUG 2008

========== REPLY ==========
Dear Rebecca, sorry to hear about your problems with your Peugeot 206. I used to work with sales in a Peugeot Dealership for many years and the description of your problem doesn't sound right. Also, even allowing for an exchange rate of 2 dollars to the UK pound, £3250 for an engine misfire? Either they have to replace an extremely expensive cylinder head, an expensive engine, or the wages for a mechanic in Australia must be the envy of the world, that equates to 30000 dollars a week! A second opinion sounds right.

Generally speaking, with the Peugeot brand, it’s the electronics which can give some issues, the rest of the cars don't give any more or less trouble than other brands. With our wetter climate, brake discs, exhausts and wheel bearings have a shorter life. Doesn't Australia have a motoring organisation which gives independent advice?

Regards, Bryan.
POSTED BY: BRYAN STOUT - FORFAR, ANGUS - SCOTLAND 17 SEP 2008

========== REPLY ==========
Hi, I am in WA. I bought a Peugeot 206 2007-2006, it was a brand new car. Originally I bought the car from Allpike by which this was another mistake as the service from both the sales and service was disgraceful. They made one error after another, then I started taking to Prestige Motor (which are part of DVG Group). They have been great help with this so called European car, as I have had BMW's and VW in the past. I thought being a European car it would be as reliable as them.

The issues start with car first - it was a constant issue with the gearbox which it wants to change gears when in manual mode. They say they fixed it but the service management say that they may never know whether or not it is fixed or not. The computer that should give information on faults does not register these faults.

I have had this car now for a year and half and it was the worst thing I have ever done. I will never buy another French car again.

I am also getting a group of people together who like me have these problems and have exhausted all options including approaching Peugeot Australia who don't want a bar of it. I am going to the Media with this issue and I am also going to Ministry of Fair Trading as I feel that I have spent $50,000 on a absolute lemon and nobody seem to give **** with other issues I have been having with this car.
POSTED BY: THOMAS - PERTH, WA - AUS 16 NOV 2008

TOYOTA YARIS  2006:  BAD SERVICE, FOUND SCRATCHES AND MORE    *COMPLAINT*

22/05/2007

ISSUE:
DEALER - SERVICE

I have recently brought my car to the Goulburn Toyota for service. At the time I paid, I asked whether the book has been stamped. They said it has been stamped and a girl got my money and brought me to the car, which she brought me to the wrong direction at the first place.

Anyway, I finally got back to my car, looked if they have stamped the book. Guess what? No. Then I asked them to stamp at the office and drove the car back home, 3 scratches were noticed above the rear wheel of the driver side. The engine was not tuned.

The next day we rang, the service manager said they don't do engine tune up at 6-months or 10k service and said he will come and have a look the next day. This is now the week after and has anyone looked at the scratches? No. I will not go back and I am quite happy to buy another Toyota, but definitely not from Goulburn Toyota!

POSTED BY: J MA - GOULBURN, NSW - AUS, 22/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Engine was not tuned? What do you mean? Did you take your service books into the office, when you first arrived at the dealership? Probably not ... you probably left them in the glovebox, and hoped a staff member would search your car to look for it …
I don't know about you, but if I believed somebody scratched my car, I'd be taking my car straight back to them to show them. In the end, I'm sure the dealer won't miss your business.
POSTED BY: JOHN SMITH - LOCATION & EMAIL NOT SUPPLIED 17/9/2007

SUBARU OUTBACK LIMITED 2001:  A REALLY GOOD VEHICLE    *GOOD NEWS*

21/05/2007

ISSUE:
GOOD NEWS

I bought my Outback from Subaru Penrith when it was 3 years old. Now at 6 and 132000k, I'm really pleased with it in all respects. I found Subaru Penrith to be honest and effective with servicing, though I can't comment on their attitude to warranty, as I had no warranty claims at all. I like this car much better than any I've owned in the last 50 odd years, and, at this time would certainly buy another Subaru.

POSTED BY: JOHN GOODWIN - ST CLAIR, NSW - AUS, 21/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK

HOLDEN ASTRA DIESEL 2007:  NEW ASTRA DIESEL    *FEEDBACK WANTED*

21/05/2007

ISSUE:
DIESEL

Hi Team,

Would like some feedback on the new Astra diesel. Info like fuel economy and any faults with the diesel engine.

I understand there have been a few problems with previous models but what about the new generation models.

Thanks all. Neil.

POSTED BY: NEIL WYNN - MANNERING PARK, NSW - AUS, 21/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
Mystery stalling and poor shift points on the auto.
POSTED BY: GAZZA V - MELBOURNE, VIC 21/5/2007

MAZDA 3  2007:  THANK GOD FOR MY MAZDA    *GOOD NEWS*

21/05/2007

ISSUE:
GOOD NEWS

I was recently in a head on collision in my six weeks old Mazda 3 from which I was luckily able to walk away. It was the Mazda's air bag and sturdy construction that saved my life. I can't wait for my new Mazda and feel confident that I have purchased a very safe car.

POSTED BY: SIMONE HIELSCHER - GOLD COAST, QLD - AUS, 21/05/2007  PROVIDE FEEDBACK
========== REPLY ==========
I am glad you were unhurt in your accident. I have had several Mazdas and every one has been a fantastic car. I traded in a 1994 Mazda MX-5 AT 430,000 Kilometres and it was still running like a watch. I now have a later model MX-5 which is an absolute joy to drive. I would never buy a so-called "Australian" gas guzzler. Stick with your safe, economical and well constructed Mazda. Just looking at the complaints about Holdens and Fords here on this forum - makes you glad of your Mazda, doesn't it?

Cheers
POSTED BY: MURRAY - DON VALLEY, VIC - AUS 15 AUG 2009
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